Small child

About vaccines, not vaccinating children and the right to make decisions


sosrodzice.pl: Are you against vaccination as such or forced vaccination?

Justyna Socha: The National Association of Knowledge about Vaccinations STOP NOP, which I represent, is for full information about vaccinations, also about their risk, and for freedom of choice. Only after obtaining such information, patients and legal guardians of the youngest patients - children - can make an informed decision and agree or refuse this medical procedure (this is guaranteed by the patient's rights, i.e. informed consent). Without it, it can be considered that the procedure will be performed illegally.

In our country, refusal to vaccinate may be associated with pressure in the office from the doctor and nurse (e.g. threatening with death of a child, humiliation, forcing to sign false statements and the associated unlawful refusal to issue a prescription or referral to a specialist, which the Ministry of Health recommends directing to law enforcement agencies).

Individual cases were also referred to family courts and in each case the parents won, because the court decided that they were taking good care of their children. For years, fines have also been imposed, which parents have referred to administrative courts and have won so far.

Unfortunately, administrative courts only pointed to procedural errors, not referring to the merits of the case, i.e. contradictions with the constitution and patient's rights. It is possible that after a longer period of peace we will face another wave of fines, which, in our opinion, instead of frightening parents, will mobilize them to act, e.g. our association has just been founded by people who have experienced vaccination complications and administrative vaccination.

To sum up - we do not want to take away the choice from anyone, but it was taken away from us and we do not want to passively accept it, which is why we strive to change the law. The consequences of vaccination decisions are borne only by the parent and the social solidarity that is expected of us when we vaccinate our children ends when complications occur. Often, parents have to cover the costs of medical treatment and rehabilitation from their own pocket, while in most European countries there are compensation funds, unfortunately only covered by the taxpayers' pocket, because the producers have secured themselves legally and are not financially responsible.

Sosrodzice.pl: What irritates our system the most?

Justyna Socha: Duress and lack of information, as I mentioned above. The lack of reporting of the so-called undesirable vaccination reactions by doctors. What was described in our petitions:

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We sound the alarm that through a completely inefficient NOP registration system, no one is able to assess the social and economic effects of the vaccination program conducted in Poland. No one can assess the long-term costs of therapy and hospitalization of children with post-vaccination complications, as well as the cost of compensation that the state treasury should pay to affected families, because by imposing administrative coercion and recommending universal vaccination, it bears full responsibility for the consequences (e.g. compensation schemes for vaccination complications operate in 13 European countries and in the USA).

As the summary of our petition says to the institutions responsible for the vaccination system in Poland: "There is no solution to the problems we indicate, i.e. inoperative supervision over the registration of NOP, providing the public with false information regarding the type and scale of adverse vaccination activities and depriving injured persons of the right to compensation is tantamount to deliberately endangering the health and lives of children and vaccinating adults, acting against the rights of patients, constitutional rights of every citizen, and rights arising from international agreements (Charter of Human Rights, European Bioethical Convention). "

Sosrodzice.pl: What is the doctors' awareness about vaccinations?

J. S: Doctors derive knowledge mainly from research commissioned and for the money of vaccine manufacturers. There is virtually no independent information on this topic, and conferences at which doctors acquire more are also organized with the corporations' money (these mechanisms are perfectly described in the material from the Supervisor 'Pharmaceutical Market and its Secrets' program).

Few are aware enough that they can diagnose vaccination complications, but they do not always openly talk about it to parents or do not want to confirm it in writing for various reasons ... As a result, small patients are exposed to the effects of incorrect diagnosis and incorrect treatment, which can lead to dramatic consequences.

Recently, for example, we receive a lot of reports regarding complications after a tuberculosis vaccine administered on the first day of a child's life. They were described, for example, in this work from the Epidemiological Review. The vast majority of these cases are not registered as an adverse vaccination reaction, and in the case of this vaccine, it is still relatively easy to determine the causal relationship with its administration compared to others.

Sosrodzice.pl: Where do you get knowledge about vaccinations? Supporters and opponents of vaccination point out the same thing. The unreliability of the data cited by people with opposite views ...

J. S: We use both medical and scientific materials (starting from leaflets, vaccine characteristics, to scientific research and materials published in Poland by the Polish Society of Vaccinology), we listen to doctors and scientists, as well as materials from their critics. Both are not without flaws. The first ones come mainly from producers who watch that uncomfortable facts do not see the light of day (which is mentioned, for example, the report by Dr. Lucjii Tomljenovic in English on covering up the truth about the risk of vaccination in Great Britain), the second sometimes from people who are looking for evidence to confirm theory of intentional depopulation through vaccination, not always taking care of their reliability. In the middle, the parent and his difficult decision regarding the health of the most important little man for him ...